GP Tier List Update - October 2021

It’s out! Lots of changes!

https://gamepress.gg/feheroes/aether-raids-tier-list-article-october-2021

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Always lovely to see a new tier list update. I am a little out of touch with the meta, but I will be honest that I was surprised to see L!Hector in Tier 2, though he is probably a bit too good to be in Tier 3.
I think the pivot away from godswords is a very interesting one to take note of and I think it has been reflected well in the tier list. I think when I get that final merge on Shamir I may retire M!Marth for a bit (until I get Far Save… hehe) and use Balm as my main swordie.
Anyway, good work as always. People will probably be mad and/or confused which is not my problem.

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Changing to no-sub just since it’s more for the site specifically and is pretty important :v.

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I can agree a lot with this statement, but find it very contradictory to not demote the Ryomas (at least OG) as a result. 1/3 of their weapon becomes useless as a melee specialist and lack of Slaying makes them worse Galeforcers than Mareeta and Karla.

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I wonder how much it would change if we got a way to disable Save skills.

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M!Kana in T3 now, I see how it’s and what must be done… :catknife: :catdestroy:

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It would probably become a PP only tier list, with the top dancers + galeforcers in tier 1 and the rest in tier 2. The fence was the first step towards that. A skill that disables saves would be the final piece.

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Arden and B!Eirika are still top tier, good enough for me :feh_ardenwoke: :feh_eirikapat:

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You guys are like 2 days later to notice that

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Quick rant:
L!Micaiah placed in Tier 2? Right in the middle of the Save meta?
… You guys serious?

L!Micaiah vs all Tier 1 + other strong units







Weak to NFU, they say… yet look at that.
I wanna watch any other PP unit pull those numbers 1v1.
To notice I disabled her weapon’s condition and made optimal builds for all other units.

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I mean this in the nicest way possible, but…

Did you even read the paragraph explaining her placement? She’s tier 2 because her DR vs melee is only useful during the player phase, and her B slot locks her out of options such as Null C Disrupt so she’s not as reliable as her OG at mixed phase. For a pure PP build, other units are better and/or more consistent. She doesn’t compare to the units in T1

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I read this, of course

My problem with this is that she is ranked only by her EP capabilities.
She’s meant to NUKE on those armors, not to tank physical hits.
Again, name another PP unit who can pull those numbers in today meta.
Wait… you don’t.

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And like I said, for PP other units do it better. Just because you can win a bunch of sims 1v1 doesn’t make you T1

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Name other such units then.
And pull the battle calculator.

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L!Byleth
Yuri
Ophelia
Ishtar
Reinhardt

Hell, OG Micaiah

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Yeah right, I wanna watch Ophelia and Ishtar survive F!Lyon and kill young Lyon…
And I wanna watch Yuri kill F!Edel and all the other Save armors.
OG!Micaiah and L!Byleth I can agree upon.

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When the hell have you seen any Lyon on AR D

AoE Yuri can dunk on save armors, I’ve done it

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Dude, again, L!Micaiah’s Tier placement only mentions her as an AR-O unit, and I’m saying she’s meant to be used on AR-D. Lyons are used in AR-O, she’s meant to fight them, and she’s meant to be compared with other PP nukes in todays save meta.
The armors don’t run NFU/NCD as far as I’m concerned, and everything else will potentially be one-shoted. Did you even look at the battle calculator?

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Still, she doesn’t measure up to other nukes. She doesn’t have any way of stopping DR or counterattacks, something that nukes like NFUSweep users and YInnes have

Attackers can brute force their way through her DR to one shot since her def is kinda pitiful (and the amount of support an attacker brings is something you can’t just sim)

She’s not a bad unit, but T1 is reserved for the best of the best most of the time

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Pull the calculator then, for example give B!Ephraim mythic supports, blessing and DR from flayn, and then do the same for L!Micaiah. Give her 1 anima blessing with Duma and then I wanna watch a single armor whose name is not B!Hector beat her on the calc.
And besides, this is “convenient” for theorycrafting, so you’ve all the tempo.
Be creative.

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