One month after release, thoughts on Elimine?

Fire Emblem Heroes FEH Discussion
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So now that it’s been a month after release, I’m curious on what are our thoughts are on Elimine. Before saying anything, I’ll acknowledge she hasn’t had any reruns. So it may still take a while for her to get into the hands of more players. And even if a player has her, they may not fit her into a team because of scoring hits.

That said, based on what I’ve seen even when players use her, I still stand by what I said at her release. I think she forced some people to change their defenses, but I honestly don’t think she’s as impactful as some people claimed. Beyond negating some turn 1 set ups, she still has the same issues Mila had - namely only being able to affect one lane. I haven’t seen anyone use multiple Elimines (again, might be due to no reruns - but even then, there are good reasons not to run multiple). And to drive home the point further, I used a double Catria ball defense to great effect and had a 0 lift loss season in VoH.

Now am I saying she’s a bad unit? No, I have her myself and have used her in every single raid I did in astra since her release. I think the DR she provides in addition to the def/res drive she gives is quite potent. But I personally don’t think she broke astra, and certainly not because of False Start alone.

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#2

At this point, if you lack the proper Defense Mythic in Anima Season expect to drop from Vault. I think the one thing that remained untouched are Winter Bernadetta defenses, provided the proper Sara placement is used.

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#3

But I have, and it was a pain

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#4

My first thought: it’s been a month already?!?

My second one: I think she’s as powerful as I thought she was (very powerful), and my one sparked copy works well for me, but I don’t think many people have her yet. I’m in the Vault, top 1-3k nearly always, and I run a Catria clump with Hardy Fighter armors, and I think only two people have actually used Elimine effectively against it so far. I’m thinking her popularity will rise over time like Cartria’s did.

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#5

Having went for the spark for her, she’s great on Save balls and tanking teams in general, she takes a mythic slot and replaces the usual flayn so either you can use another support or have 1 more mythic.
However as a whole, I like Thorr so much better. I find that Thorr fits on more teams without any hassle or rare fodder. I like my N!Corrin turn 1 team and my hit and run team and Elimine does not fit well onto either of them. Since I use the bonus mythic to repo Corrin for kills, Elimine requires return and that is not worth the fodder. Hit and run she more often just hides in the back alongside B!Fjorm, maybe doing something. Compared to Thorr’s worldbreaker which helps pretty much each team as she helps give bigger hits and easier galeforces.
All in all, she’s alright, she’s really good with tanking teams, but outside of that she is very awkward to use in comparision to Thorr or Plumeria.

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#6

I pull a single copy of every AR-O mythic so i got Elimine.

I haven’t abused false start, however she’s a Flayn that not only take a mythic slot, but also unlock the additional slot, it was very useful for my save ball team(s).
Not to mention, she grants visible hp/speed and my astra save ball is a speedy save-ball : the perfect mythic for them.

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#7

Mine takes her support role pretty well. False Start has helped me in AR-O.

I had barely an issue with her, as I adjusted my AR-D’s skills to factor in a chance she’ll be in the attacking team. The only skill that’ll still be affected? Air Orders…on one unit. It doesn’t do much, though.

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#8

Funny you should mention these two together, because this is my go-to team for clearing Abyssals. So far they are ridiculously OP together. No one has been able to put a scratch in them

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#9

I don’t think she’s that common yet. My defense team is prone to be taken down by False Start but I have seen Elimine only a couple of times in my replays in VoH.

What’s more is that most attackers don’t use her well. All they do is use her in a save ball for extra DR instead of dismantling the core mechanics of my defense team.

On offense I use my unmerged Elimine all the time but I don’t have many opportunities to make best use of her False Start ability. Usually disabling Otr’s special precharge or deactivating a Time’s Pulse is the best I can do but it doesn’t really change the outcome of a match at all.
I’ve met Catria balls only once or twice in Astra season since Elimine’s release and it was pretty devastating for the opponent.

Overall I gotta admit she’s not as impactful as I expected at first but that may be due to lack of availability.

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#10

That lack of availability is strange since, with the Pass, she was sparkable. I can’t imagine most Vault players lack the Pass, and they’re the most likely to understand the power of False Start, so…

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#11

She didn’t do well in AHR either so I guess people just don’t find her that interesting.

I just remembered I also disabled a couple of Upheavals so Duma couldn’t destroy my Bolt Tower. That definitely can be a game changer sometimes.

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#12

Wasn’t she literally 9th in AHR? I wouldn’t call that “didn’t do well”

Edit: okay she was 10th, but the point still stands

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#13

I mean compared to Altina and Seiros who both won the initial vote.
They were the most recently released mythics at their time.

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#14

Oh yeah and add a support unit for Ar and no map will stop you.
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#15

She’s actually not as busted as I originally thought, but still very very oppressive. I actually prefer having Altina for the Atk boost and just having a flier sword unit with decent enough magical bulk can get you out of a lot of situations. I dunno. The amount of Cat balls I’ve encountered versus the amount of times Altina could have made a difference is very minimal.

Scoring shouldn’t matter because with Reginn(Someone you should be using or even Thorr) you’re given a 6th slot. Throw Elim there and you’re good. Your two main mythics you have merged up, your bonus(Could be apart of the first two), and Elim and you’re set for scores regardless of merges.

I also encountered a map with two Catrias so it seems like some people are trying to brute force their way through Elim, which I found pretty funny. Also now seeing you’ve made this point.

She’s definitely not a bad unit. She’s Flayn but better and can be used as a mythic slot for boosted stats. Speedy and can take magical hits decently enough there’s not much reason to run Flayn over Elim. I think when more people get her she’s going to be much more meta changing than any other mythic with the exception of Mila who I think is in a very similar boat.

Side note: To the idiots who use Elim for just DR and not for False Start, I appreciate the free LLC. Your actions are loud and clear but oh boy are they idiotic.

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#16

that was different Altina was one of the first Astra (I can’t remember if Naga came before or after her). but she was more “offensive” than Naga for sure.

And Seiros was the first Dark 6th slot opener.

Elimine wasn’t the first anything (other than first mythic healer)

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#17

Yeah, exactly.

Even 'tho Altina came after Naga, Naga was considered by many as a “bad” mythic while Altina was quite useful at the time, with vantage strategy.

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#18

Shes ehh.

Isolation > first start

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#19

It certainly is a gimmick xD. But personally, I don’t consider it any less gimmicky than pure cav lines, rally/restore traps, etc. I think what makes it serviceable is the fact that the new map reduces the need for a near save unit, so you can afford to run the extra Catria. Unless they’re running a dif map, in which case I don’t know what those people you encountered are trying.

She’s definitely not a bad unit. She’s Flayn but better and can be used as a mythic slot for boosted stats. Speedy and can take magical hits decently enough there’s not much reason to run Flayn over Elim. I think when more people get her she’s going to be much more meta changing than any other mythic with the exception of Mila who I think is in a very similar boat.

Yeah, pretty much my thoughts. I do think availability has yet to catch up to usage, but even up till now, I still see a lot of poorly built/used Milas in VoH, so I don’t know how much things will be different.

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#20

I barely try on Astra season (don’t care to deal with the shit in VoH) so she hasn’t really changed much for me there. Mainly just using her instead of Flayn now in typical content and there isn’t really much of a difference there either.

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