Vanessa Build?

Fire Emblem Heroes FEH Discussion
#1

Hello. I need to build Vanessa very hard!
I wonder, looking at her stats, which build is the best?
I’d like to take Rein Lance or some other Atk/Spd booster lance (I dont want alt lances or arcane lance).

I think this build is not bad, I use it on my Phila and it stacks a lot of debuffs during combat, she also can serve as support ally, debuffing closest foe’s stats.
Vanessa also has better Def and Atk but lower Res than Phila:

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Would you change something from it? Maybe A slot or Sacred Seal?

I may also consider other build options, since I have good fodder, like Guidance 4 or Ashe’s Spd/Def Near Trace manual. I have Atk/Def and Atk/Spd Catch 4 manuals, Atk/Spd Push 4 manuals, Fury 4, Life and Death 4, All Smoke 4 skills…

What do you think? How would you build my girl?

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#2

If you’re going to commit to Pegasus Flight 4, then you need to fully commit. Units can get so fast now (>90) that even subtracting -10 from foe’s speed for the check won’t always help. I would replace the A slot with Atk/Spd catch or anything that also gives speed. Likewise, for the C slot, if you can get your hands on Spd/Def Rein/Hold, I’d use that.For seal, I’d recommend Spd/Res Solo over phantom res. The 4 fake res difference from phantom res compared to Spd/Res solo isn’t better than having actual res. It’s a minuscule difference in terms of the res based debuffs to foe’s atk/def, and the Spd/Res solo seal would also help for PF4’s last effect.

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#3

Sadly, this isn’t the case for Pegasus Flight. PF and WF operate on out of combat stats, so in combat buffs like Solos are worthless for it. Phantom Res counts for an out of combat stat check, so it’s very useful on a PF build.

It’s the same for Spd; PF checks for out of combat stats for deciding whether it works or not. All those in combat Spd boosts are worthless for proccing it

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#4

Well, goes to show I never used pegasus or wyvern flight :catcry: I still stand by spd boosting/debuffing a and c skills given how fast and hard nukes are in this meta and Vanessa actually has a workable spd stat

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#5

I agree that if Vanessa is intended to be going toe to toe with speedsters that more Spd is needed. The build OP has is more effective against slower, tankier units.

It should be noted that a lot of speedsters get most of their speed from in combat stats so Pegasus Flight Vanessa is still a very solid answer to a lot of fast swords (since they pretty much all have shit for out of combat Res) even if she can’t completely match them for Speed.

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#6

Would flow n trace work for her? I am trying to find a B Skill.

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#7

For an initiator, that’d be what I would pick for her. Null-F and Trace? Yes, please.

I’d also use the Arcane Lance; but that’s also partly for maxomizing fodder. If you have an Easter Karla you don’t want, she’d be great for it.

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#8

Atk/Res Finish or atk/spd catch might be ideal for her if I could get a spare one

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#9

Finish is Infantry-only, so between those, it’d have to be Catch.

#10

I pulled one from the banner with a +SPD roll (yay, I have a new SS unit to use!), and I’m thinking of doing something like this.

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She’s fast, so she doesn’t necessarily need Arcane. Flow Trace would be good, but if I want to maximize use with reduced investment, her Up-Front Lance is not exactly bad. The HP check on it syncs well with Dive-Bomb, and Surge Sparrow could help keep her HP up.

Problem is, she’s still left a little bit squishy, so I’m torn between using Galefore (and swapping Surge to Swift Sparrow 3 instead, maybe LD4) or using a burst special for healing. But if she’s still left in the middle of a fight, she’s vulnerable; so maybe she’s like Surge, Trace, and a burst instead.

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#11

I got a Valentian Est today.
It is her B slot better than Pegasus Flight 4?

Flow Feather 3:
If unit initiates combat, neutralizes effects that prevent unit’s follow-up attacks during combat, and also, if unit’s Spd ≥ foe’s Spd-10, deals damage during combat = 70% of difference between Res stats (unit’s Res minus foe’s Res) and reduces damage from foe’s attacks by 70% of that difference. (Excluding area-of-effect Specials. Min: 0, max: 7.)
The problem is this skill only works when Vanessa initiates, and not for both EP and PP… But DR + extraDMG its pretty good.

#12

PF4 is gonna be much better for defensive purposes in both phases. Flow Feather is kinda mid if you’re not gonna focus on initiation.

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#13

Would Def or Spd Clash be more effect for her?

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#14

You could give her a build like this to initiate safely:

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You could also swap out Hare’s Lance+ for Rein Lance+ if you want more in-combat debuffs and use Odd Tempest 3 seal instead of Swift Sparrow 2 for better hit-and-run potential on odd turns.

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